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Wednesday, November 09, 2005

confused?

Last time I looked, discrimination was illegal.

So I logged on to confused.com and set about trying to get a quote for my car insurance, which would, of course include Imp as a named driver.

Handy site - it searches for the best quote for you, and you only have to enter your details once.

However, if you are gay, there's a problem.
It won't accept your same-sex partner as 'Common Law Partner'.

I could register her as either my sister, daughter or mother... but call me old-fashioned, there's a bit of an incestuous feel to that.
Plus, naturally, she is my partner and I love her. That is a valid relationship in my eyes.... and prod a little deeper into matters of human rights... and it's a valid relationship there, too.

I emailed Confused, who replied by saying that gay partnerships were not legally recognised.

Not being picky, but 'Common Law Partner' isn't legally recognised either - and hasn't been since the 17th century.

Spot the bias toward straight couples? I call that discrimination.

I'm not interested in whether Confused think my relationship is valid or not. I just want to stick someone else's name on the certificate. Big bloody deal. You would think that gay relationships are old hat by now. I can't be the only queer in the country with a driving licence. I can handle a steering wheel fine, thanks, and I don't even have a limp wrist.

So I can't register my girfriend on my car insurance because I'm gay. Or she's gay. Or maybe it's because I'm a woman and she's not a man. Or perhaps because she's a woman and I'm not a man? Is that sex discrimination too, because she's not a man? Makes my head hurt...

*Pay attention, you at the back... :)

In reply to this, Confused said that it's not them (honest, guvner..) but all the nasty insurance companies. Obviously I will have to promise to reform, get a boyfriend and let him do the driving while I sit in the back reading Woman's Weekly before they take me seriously.

In less than a month, civil partnerships will be available to same-sex couples. Does that mean I will have to get 'married' to conform or will I be allowed to have a girlfriend then?
Someone needs to tell the insurance companies about this because they obviously think all us deviant poofters are locked up in a prison cell somewhere, about to be lobotomised and beaten to within an inch of our lives with a Cat o' Nine Tails.

Bollox to them all.

15 Comments:

  • At November 09, 2005 6:49 pm, Blogger S.I.D. said…

    Don't worry, we have dickhead councillors who have refused to even provide a room for civil partnerships to be registered.

    Very civil of them.Bastards

    So if your paying a flying visit to NI dont forget to put your watch back....200years

     
  • At November 09, 2005 6:57 pm, Blogger jen said…

    Just when you think "we" are making great strides in this grande ol world of ours something sneaks up and kicks our arse right back into reality.
    I especially like the solicitation phone calls we get.
    them: "Is mrs. Ines in?"
    me: "no, MS. Ines is not available"
    them: "Is her husband available?"
    me: "no, but I am her wife."
    them: silence followed by a dial tone

     
  • At November 09, 2005 7:16 pm, Blogger Sniffy said…

    Bastards. What if you phoned an insurance company for a quote, what'd happen then?

    This is something that should be taken higher, to the insurance companies professional association (or whatever it's called). It might just be that they're pathetically inconsiderate and hadn't realised, rather than them being twats.

    If they're being twats, we should write to our MPs and get them on the case. A bit of organisation and pressure might do the trick.

    Let us know how you get on, this is very important.

    Good luck.

     
  • At November 09, 2005 8:36 pm, Blogger funny thing said…

    Northern Ireland. Sounds scary. I get tired of getting angry about it though.

    I like your 'I'm the wife' thing, Jen. Made Imp and I laugh.

    I would imagine that insurance companies have come across the gay issue before - they must deal with hundreds of people every day.
    I suspect it's down to the whole conservative heterosexual view on life... you know, the one where you have to say you are 'single' on forms because the other options are 'married' or 'divorced'.

    Imp was on my insurance last year because I rang the insurance company... but these are the same companies with the same limited forms - I have no way of knowing what they classed her as.

    Bastards.

     
  • At November 09, 2005 10:01 pm, Blogger Sniffy said…

    Well, it's something that needs to change and it wouldn't take much on their part. I wonder who the best person to contact would be.

    Of course, what's needed is a survey of all the application forms to see what the state of play is and whether there are any companies that have thought about things a bit better.

    Still, the argument is, you shouldn't bloody have to. I'm surprised that this hasn't been taken into consideration in this day and age.

     
  • At November 09, 2005 10:12 pm, Blogger funny thing said…

    I might email Stonewall.
    They could already be on the case I suppose... and they certainly know how to kick up a media-frenzy when it's needed!

    I'm in the middle of watching the first ever episode of the League of Gentlemen at the mo... and converting Imp(Bless her..!) So I'll do it tomorrow.
    I'll post a link to my email if it appears anywhere visible. Watch this space.

     
  • At November 09, 2005 10:44 pm, Blogger Sniffy said…

    Did I tell you I've got tickets to see them again on the 8th of December in Manchester? Well, i've ordered tickets. I couldn't miss that opportunity.

    If you can't convert Imp, you need to reconsider the terms of your relationship, thus rendering your argument with the insurance company unnecessary!

     
  • At November 09, 2005 11:38 pm, Blogger funny thing said…

    She laughed an acceptable amount of times, cringed in the right places and agreed that the towel rhyme is worth learning and thus utilising when we throw dinner parties.
    I am armed with Series 2 as well, so by the end of the week she will be talking like Papa Lazarou.

    Better get fist-waving at those damned insurance companies, then!

     
  • At November 10, 2005 8:01 am, Blogger Sniffy said…

    That's a very good start. I sat through the first episode in shocked silence, not knowing whether I ought to be laughing at any of it.

     
  • At November 10, 2005 9:52 am, Blogger surly girl said…

    hello daaaave....

    i swapped my car insurance from norwich union - they quoted me at nearly £600 (and that's with 5 years NCD!!) and when i told them i could get it for half the price with sheila's wheels (which i have done) the nice lady in mumbai suggested i "put my partner" on the policy to bring the price down. um, excuse me? why on earth am i less likely to have an accident if i add a man to my policy? what if i'm single? what if i'm a lezzer? what if i'm a galloping hairy-legged feminist? i'm none of the above (apart from slightly stubbly shins..don't look at me like that - i'm off games - i'm not getting laid this week and it saves time in the mornings) but it pissed me off no end so i politely (well, impolitely actually) declined and am now cozily ensconsed with lovely cheap car insurance and a clear conscience that i have done the right thing by my Fellow Wimmin.

    blimey, i wrote an essay. sorry.

     
  • At November 10, 2005 11:15 am, Blogger funny thing said…

    Write as many essays as you like.

    Why would adding your male partner to your insurance bring the price down?
    I was under the impression that insurance for men was more expensive because they all drive like arrogant nob-heads.

    I'll try Sheila's Wheels then.

     
  • At November 10, 2005 11:16 am, Blogger funny thing said…

    ps. I think the first episode is their all-time best.

    Along with the asphyxiation one in the second series.

     
  • At November 10, 2005 11:44 am, Blogger surly girl said…

    sheila's wheels rock.

    i really couldn't understand the "adding a partner" thing. i was very offended and also very glad i had a much better offer elsewhere.

    stupid norwich union.

     
  • At November 10, 2005 12:20 pm, Blogger funny thing said…

    Anything that refers to Norfolk must be a bit parochial.

    I expect your insurance would go down because they would make you sign a disclaimer promising never to drive when there is a man available... and to forfeit your right to vote, wear trousers and refuse sex when you're not in the mood.

     
  • At November 10, 2005 2:50 pm, Blogger Sniffy said…

    If Sheila's is for women drivers, how can they allow male partners to be insured as an additional partner?

    Don't get it.

    Juliet Bravo! One of my favourite ones that (third series btw). That's the one with Alvin and Judith "Gnats, galynippers...." and is that also the one with Kacey Emma Glass?

     

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